Attendees
Mira (miralee.munro)
Barbie (barbiedoll25)
Deefer (deefer.honi)
Sunshine(szavanna)
Lu (luumikai)
Miriam (sylvain.devin)
Zen (zen.arado)
Dolay (dolay.kytori)
Apologies from
Ash
Overview
- Groups: Moving from three groups to one group (PERFECT ARTIST COLONY), which will be for artists who live @ PAC and have rez rights and notices. Visitors can keep up-to-date with events using either facebook or the new blog.
- New blog: we are revamping the old blog to have highlights from the facebook, a gallery, minutes from meetings, a calendar of events etc.
New Roles
- Lu: Blog design, organisation, minutes of meetings, and calendar
- Barbie: Blog design, news feed, and gallery
- Mira: Maintaining the facebook page
Minutes
Mira
Probably best if you ladies introduce yourselves
and let everyone know what you will be doing here.
And then for the others to let you know what they
do here.
and let everyone know what you will be doing here.
And then for the others to let you know what they
do here.
Barbie
I'm Barbie and I'm the photographer here.
Lu
I'm lu and I'm gonna take minutes
Sunshine
I am Sun and I do the Friday dances.
Well, apart from yesterday :)
Well, apart from yesterday :)
Mira
Lu is also, I hope, going to be taking on quite a
bit of the administrative stuff here.
bit of the administrative stuff here.
Lu
Yep
Mira
And Barbie is, I hope, going to revive
"The Paradise Echo" newspaper.
"The Paradise Echo" newspaper.
Wanda
What is Perfect Paradise?
Mira
Perfect Paradise is the name of the island
Wanda, and the community which grew here six
years ago, and Paradise Artist Colony is the
new group that is developing now.
Wanda, and the community which grew here six
years ago, and Paradise Artist Colony is the
new group that is developing now.
Sunshine is very well known for her international
music around Second Life, and recently set up
her base over at InWorldz, but will retain and
'annexe' here at Perfect Paradise, up in the sky,
where people will be able to come and listen
to her music streams, read info etc.
music around Second Life, and recently set up
her base over at InWorldz, but will retain and
'annexe' here at Perfect Paradise, up in the sky,
where people will be able to come and listen
to her music streams, read info etc.
Sunshine
Yes, I am going to start working on the
sunvibes pod :)
sunvibes pod :)
Mira
Messy (wizzit) is another new member. She's
from New Zealand, so she's around my time frame.
She's been busy organising art exhibitions. So
many, in fact, that she's thinking of maybe having
two a month. She's organised the statue exhibition,
which comes to an end in just over a week.
from New Zealand, so she's around my time frame.
She's been busy organising art exhibitions. So
many, in fact, that she's thinking of maybe having
two a month. She's organised the statue exhibition,
which comes to an end in just over a week.
Deefer
Mmm - that has been good and fun.
Mira
Have you seen the one in the canoe? lol
My role here is just that of general co-ordinator.
I help out where I can.
I help out where I can.
Sunshine
So, the community is taking off :)
Mira
Yeah!
Shenn is being really active in bringing artists
here, and Messy is also very active in finding
new artists.
here, and Messy is also very active in finding
new artists.
Sunshine
Great :)
Mira
The next artist to exhibit does work on BDSM,
which could be rather controversial.
which could be rather controversial.
Sunshine
I will be doing bolly evenings with many artists
there also, maybe I can find some also
there also, maybe I can find some also
Mira
Strix (strix6), who sings here twice a week,
has organised a pianist friend to start playing
here once a week.
has organised a pianist friend to start playing
here once a week.
Deefer
We also have Bertram
Sunshine
Ah yes, Sundays at 2pm?
Mira
Oh, yes! Bertram will continue doing Sunday
Meditation at 2pm.
Meditation at 2pm.
Sunshine
He has been doing it for so long.
Deefer
Part of the furniture, bless him. But it
wouldn't be the same place without him.
wouldn't be the same place without him.
Sunshine
Yes, he is great.
Mira
And Lu will be admin. Lu, do you want to
tell folks what you've been doing?
tell folks what you've been doing?
Lu
Sure. I've been making a member list and
also calendars of rezdays and weekly events so
we can let people know when the are and celebrate.
I've also collected quite a few email addresses
and I think Mira has quite a lot of the rest of
them, so we can update the statement.
also calendars of rezdays and weekly events so
we can let people know when the are and celebrate.
I've also collected quite a few email addresses
and I think Mira has quite a lot of the rest of
them, so we can update the statement.
Mira
Yeah, so what Lu is doing will make it easier
for us to connect with one another. Group notices
are notoriously useless as everyone just flicks
them away, which is a great source of frustration,
because that's the whole point of joining a group,
so you do know what's going on with them.
for us to connect with one another. Group notices
are notoriously useless as everyone just flicks
them away, which is a great source of frustration,
because that's the whole point of joining a group,
so you do know what's going on with them.
Sunshine
Hmm, yes I usually get them unless too many
notices to read
notices to read
Mira
Oh, we also have our two Facebook pages -
one for Perfect Paradise Community and one
for Paradise Artist Colony
one for Perfect Paradise Community and one
for Paradise Artist Colony
Deefer
How about Friends of Paradise?
Mira
That doesn't have a Facebook page, Deefer, or
do you mean generally?
do you mean generally?
Deefer
Oh. No - I meant for recieving notices.
Mira
Oh, I send out notices to the three groups about
social events etc. I don't think I sent them a
message about this meeting as it was 'administrative'
not social. What would you like to see happen
with Friends of Perfect Paradise?
social events etc. I don't think I sent them a
message about this meeting as it was 'administrative'
not social. What would you like to see happen
with Friends of Perfect Paradise?
Sunshine
Best would be just one general group. Probably
best would be to ask the "friends" group to
join the new one.
best would be to ask the "friends" group to
join the new one.
Mira
The trouble with that, though, is that we need
to have a group (those who actually 'live' here),
to be able to rezz things on the island,
but we don't particularly want great numbers
of people to be able to do that.
to have a group (those who actually 'live' here),
to be able to rezz things on the island,
but we don't particularly want great numbers
of people to be able to do that.
Lu
Maybe we could have an administrative group
with rez rights and no notices and a Friends
group for notices
with rez rights and no notices and a Friends
group for notices
Sunshine
Yes, as long as it's not two.
Deefer
I reckon the historical need for setting friends
up is maybe not so urgent, Mira.
up is maybe not so urgent, Mira.
Sunshine
Yes, I think the admin group doesn't need
notices.
notices.
Mira
How will they know what's going on?
Sunshine
It's easiest if usually we send notices in
one group.
one group.
Lu
They'll be in the friends group as well. So,
they get notices and rez rights.
they get notices and rez rights.
Mira
Yeah, I know it's annoying to get three notices
for basically the same thing. My thought was
that eventually, because the community group
more or less became so inactive, that we would
just go with the new Artist Colony group. Friends
Of was always just going to be people who are
'mildly' interested in what is going on here
and just want to come to parties etc.
for basically the same thing. My thought was
that eventually, because the community group
more or less became so inactive, that we would
just go with the new Artist Colony group. Friends
Of was always just going to be people who are
'mildly' interested in what is going on here
and just want to come to parties etc.
Sunshine
So, one group for everything then?
Mira
I'm reluctant to do that Sunshine because,
personally, I like our focus to be on the
people who actually 'live' here or are involved
in what happens here, rather than people who
just occasionally visit and only have a passing
interest in things.
personally, I like our focus to be on the
people who actually 'live' here or are involved
in what happens here, rather than people who
just occasionally visit and only have a passing
interest in things.
Deefer
Do you realise that "paradiseartistcolony.org"
is currently available as a URL if you want
your own website?
is currently available as a URL if you want
your own website?
Mira
Mmm, that adds another level to our administration
but sounds good, Deefer.
but sounds good, Deefer.
Deefer
Well, it adds another job
Mira
The thing is that we are creating these
'entities', groups, Facebook pages, websites,
etc. for what purpose? Keeping our members informed
as to what we are doing? Recording our history?
This might sound awful, but I would rather focus
on the group which is the artist's colony (people
who are doing things here), rather than people
who just visit occasionally and want to be entertained.
Do we exist to entertain others, or do we exist
for our own creative explorations and experiences?
'entities', groups, Facebook pages, websites,
etc. for what purpose? Keeping our members informed
as to what we are doing? Recording our history?
This might sound awful, but I would rather focus
on the group which is the artist's colony (people
who are doing things here), rather than people
who just visit occasionally and want to be entertained.
Do we exist to entertain others, or do we exist
for our own creative explorations and experiences?
Lu
I think it sounds good to keep the two separate,
because that separation also determines how many
notices certain people want/how much they want
to be involved.
because that separation also determines how many
notices certain people want/how much they want
to be involved.
Deefer
What do artists do if there is no one to be
entertained by their images or sounds?
entertained by their images or sounds?
Lu
But there will be people - the friends of PAC.
Deefer
For a start, I enjoyed looking for and looking
at the statues.
at the statues.
Lu
But they don't want to be as involved as the
actual artists.
actual artists.
Deefer
If no one looks at the art then why else
is it there?
is it there?
Mira
Yeah. So we send out a notice and let them
know there is an exhibition on and they come.
know there is an exhibition on and they come.
Lu
Sure, but people will look, but the visitors
have different requirements to the artists, hence
the need for a separate forum for them.
have different requirements to the artists, hence
the need for a separate forum for them.
Deefer
Exactly! Is that what you wanted - a platform
for artists and a place to exhibit?
for artists and a place to exhibit?
Sunshine
Each artist invites his or her friends.
Mira
On a personal level, I just got sick of sending
out notices and not getting a response back and
I think that happens when you have a membership
of say 100 people, but really only 6 or so are
focused on what happens here. That's why I got so
frustrated with Perfect Paradise Community. In the
end, I was the only one living here, and we
went from a membership of active members of say
10 to 6 to 3 to just me. So what was the point
of continuing the group?
out notices and not getting a response back and
I think that happens when you have a membership
of say 100 people, but really only 6 or so are
focused on what happens here. That's why I got so
frustrated with Perfect Paradise Community. In the
end, I was the only one living here, and we
went from a membership of active members of say
10 to 6 to 3 to just me. So what was the point
of continuing the group?
Lu
I think when you are in 3 groups and you get
repeated notices it makes you more likely to
ignore them. We really need to make it so you're
sending notices to one group (and that group
can vary depending on the event) but sending
out 3 just makes people more likely to click [x].
repeated notices it makes you more likely to
ignore them. We really need to make it so you're
sending notices to one group (and that group
can vary depending on the event) but sending
out 3 just makes people more likely to click [x].
Mira
Yeah, I agree Lu. I don't particularly like
sending out three separate notices, and I
always thought that eventually Perfect Paradise
Community would be folded because there was just
not the interest there. So we would end up with
Paradise Artist Colony and Friends of Perfect
Paradise.
sending out three separate notices, and I
always thought that eventually Perfect Paradise
Community would be folded because there was just
not the interest there. So we would end up with
Paradise Artist Colony and Friends of Perfect
Paradise.
Lu
Exactly :)
Mira
One 'working' group and one 'just mildly
interested' group.
interested' group.
**The Sunaru Incident**
Mira
So, Sunshine, you would like to see all three groups
merged into one group?
merged into one group?
Sunshine
Not sure, just pondering, Mira.
Mira
Well, I think there are two distinct 'groups':
those who come here on a daily basis and
those who visit occasionally.
those who come here on a daily basis and
those who visit occasionally.
Sunshine
It's usually good for a community to have only
one but give different roles. I don't think there
should be such a separation between those that
don't come here often and the regulars.
one but give different roles. I don't think there
should be such a separation between those that
don't come here often and the regulars.
Mira
Well, as far as I'm concerned, the group here is
Paradise Artist Colony, which is for artists,
creators, musicians, writers etc., to have a
home base so they can focus on creating their art
and not have to worry about having to raise
tier for a home.
Paradise Artist Colony, which is for artists,
creators, musicians, writers etc., to have a
home base so they can focus on creating their art
and not have to worry about having to raise
tier for a home.
Lu
Can roles give rez rights to some and not others?
Deefer
I am still struggling to remember why we split -
wasn't it something to do with the rez
rights issues?
wasn't it something to do with the rez
rights issues?
Mira
But what is the point of someone belonging to an
Artist Colony if their only interest is in
just visiting the pretty island that group lives on?
Artist Colony if their only interest is in
just visiting the pretty island that group lives on?
Lu
For the notices.
Mira
That has always been the issue: The Island
attracts lots of people who don't have the
vaguest interest in what happens here, they just
want to be able to come and bring their girlfriend
for a romantic hour or so.
attracts lots of people who don't have the
vaguest interest in what happens here, they just
want to be able to come and bring their girlfriend
for a romantic hour or so.
Deefer
And if they are only coming to visit occasionally,
then do they even need to know about notices?
If they do, then point them to Facebook or website.
then do they even need to know about notices?
If they do, then point them to Facebook or website.
Mira
I think people just get into the habit of joining
whatever group the place has. I'm happy to have
on group, but for that group to be relevant to
what we do here. If people want to visit,
they don't need a group. That could be a solution,
Deefer: if people are just mildly interested in
the island, we can put them to our Facebook page,
and then they have to make the effort to
keep themselves informed, not us.
whatever group the place has. I'm happy to have
on group, but for that group to be relevant to
what we do here. If people want to visit,
they don't need a group. That could be a solution,
Deefer: if people are just mildly interested in
the island, we can put them to our Facebook page,
and then they have to make the effort to
keep themselves informed, not us.
Sunshine
True.
Mira
This place is only really relevant to the people
who choose to live and work here.
who choose to live and work here.
Deefer
And, I have a confession - I can't work Facebook
very well so I can never find the PP Facebook link.
very well so I can never find the PP Facebook link.
Mira
https://www.facebook.com/groups/246192208913820/
That's the direct link to the page. I'm not sure
what happens there either: I made the group
Open but I notice that people still have to 'apply'
to join, so I don't know what that should be.
what happens there either: I made the group
Open but I notice that people still have to 'apply'
to join, so I don't know what that should be.
Deefer
Barbie - how did you become involved more with
Paradise - beyond just a cursory first visit?
Paradise - beyond just a cursory first visit?
Barbie
I like it here, and Mira kind of asked me if I
want to do more than visit and I do like to take
photos, so it seemed just natural to be involved more.
want to do more than visit and I do like to take
photos, so it seemed just natural to be involved more.
Mira
There have always been two 'entities' here: The
Island and The Community which lives here. The
island attracts a lot of visitors who have
absolutely no interest in community or art.
Island and The Community which lives here. The
island attracts a lot of visitors who have
absolutely no interest in community or art.
Deefer
So, you see Mira - sometimes it is intuition -
sometimes you know it feels right to offer
membership early- and sometimes you're right
and sometimes you're wrong.
sometimes you know it feels right to offer
membership early- and sometimes you're right
and sometimes you're wrong.
Mira
Same with Lu.
Deefer
Yeah?
Mira
And also MarianneFaithfully, but I haven't
seen her this week.
seen her this week.
Barbie
But it was you, Deefer, who got me interested
by being nice when I first came here.
by being nice when I first came here.
Deefer
Aww, thanks Barbie.
Barbie
If you weren't here, I might not have joined.
Mira
So, basically, there are two different experiences
here: people who are just passing through, and
people who feel a pull to stay. So two entities:
The Island and The Colony and two experiences:
Staying or Passing Through.
here: people who are just passing through, and
people who feel a pull to stay. So two entities:
The Island and The Colony and two experiences:
Staying or Passing Through.
Deefer
It's often simply down to who you first meet
here - or don't meet.
here - or don't meet.
Barbie
But you are right. Some people wouldn't stay anyway,
and you have to have an interest in art.
and you have to have an interest in art.
Lu
Could we possibly set a time before we invite
someone to the group? Like a week or so. Like
Mira follows intuition but takes a while in case
some people turn out to be the passing through kind?
someone to the group? Like a week or so. Like
Mira follows intuition but takes a while in case
some people turn out to be the passing through kind?
Deefer
I say go with the one group, Mira.
Mira
And forget Friends?
Barbie
I think so too.
Deefer
Those who are interested might follow Facebook
Mira
It's a fine line, because someone might be
interested in being a part of the group
but not have any particular artistic ability,
and then feel that they are not 'good enough'
to join because they don't paint or draw or
write stories or whatever.
interested in being a part of the group
but not have any particular artistic ability,
and then feel that they are not 'good enough'
to join because they don't paint or draw or
write stories or whatever.
Deefer
Often here are those who come here who never
go near social sites, so they will not find
more information
go near social sites, so they will not find
more information
Lu
The Facebook idea is a good one, although
it perhaps excludes people who are less able
to use it. However, if people say, "I would really
love to know what is going on and I'm back at
Facebook", we can make exceptions, and add
them to the group.
it perhaps excludes people who are less able
to use it. However, if people say, "I would really
love to know what is going on and I'm back at
Facebook", we can make exceptions, and add
them to the group.
Deefer
But PAC has spirit and focus and direction.
Mira
I'm happy to keep the two groups: Paradise
Artist Colony and Friends of Perfect Paradise,
because basically, that is how I see how things
are here. People who want to be active in the group,
and people who want to keep a connection with
the island.
Artist Colony and Friends of Perfect Paradise,
because basically, that is how I see how things
are here. People who want to be active in the group,
and people who want to keep a connection with
the island.
Deefer
So, keep them Mira.
Mira
But I think we will phase out Perfect Paradise
Community as that no long exists really. The land
will either be sold to the colony, or just
changed over in name. So, the land rights will
be with Paradise Artist Colony and we will have
the Artist Colony Facebook page. What do people
think about having a website? We used to have
one and it had all of our history on it, but
they started charging for it, and we paid for a
couple of years and then it lapsed and all our
records are now lost. Six years of history, or
rather five years. Do we have enough going on
to warrant a web page? It could be a good forum
for art works and music.
Community as that no long exists really. The land
will either be sold to the colony, or just
changed over in name. So, the land rights will
be with Paradise Artist Colony and we will have
the Artist Colony Facebook page. What do people
think about having a website? We used to have
one and it had all of our history on it, but
they started charging for it, and we paid for a
couple of years and then it lapsed and all our
records are now lost. Six years of history, or
rather five years. Do we have enough going on
to warrant a web page? It could be a good forum
for art works and music.
Lu
You sent me the link to the newspaper on Blogger.
Blogger is never going to start charging and
you can make pages etc. Perhaps that's a
safer/cheaper option.
Blogger is never going to start charging and
you can make pages etc. Perhaps that's a
safer/cheaper option.
Mira
Oh, okay.
Barbie
Wouldn't the Echo be the same?
Mira
Yeah, well perhaps it could be both: newspaper
and blog = website. So rather than calling it
a newspaper, it just becomes our website. Can we
just make that newspaper link our continuing
website or should it have the name
Paradise Artist Colony?
and blog = website. So rather than calling it
a newspaper, it just becomes our website. Can we
just make that newspaper link our continuing
website or should it have the name
Paradise Artist Colony?
Barbie
Yes, it could keep history, and people
could post their work.
could post their work.
Mira
Well, that could be the way to go.
Lu
You can have multiple authors on Blogger
Mira
Use that as the repository of our 'knowledge'
and history. Which is good because the newspaper
did record a lot of our history so there will be
continuity. Can the name of the blog be changed?
and history. Which is good because the newspaper
did record a lot of our history so there will be
continuity. Can the name of the blog be changed?
Lu
Yes, but whoever made it has to invite you to
edit their blog.
edit their blog.
Mira
http://pechonews.blogspot.com/
That would be Darcon. He set it up (darcon.xue).
I have some abilities there, but to be honest,
I've never added to it, or used it. So he
would be the best person to go to about it.
Okay, so that's an idea. So, Barbie was going
to take on the job of doing the newspaper and
Lu was going to be doing admin, so do you
think the two of your could work together
on the website/blog?
I have some abilities there, but to be honest,
I've never added to it, or used it. So he
would be the best person to go to about it.
Okay, so that's an idea. So, Barbie was going
to take on the job of doing the newspaper and
Lu was going to be doing admin, so do you
think the two of your could work together
on the website/blog?
Barbie
Yes, I see no reason why not
Mira
In my experience, it's best to have clearly set out
responsibilities and areas of 'authority'.
responsibilities and areas of 'authority'.
Lu
I can help with organising the blog and spell
checking but with uni I don't have time to
update another blog. But I can do design
and layout as I know Blogger quite well.
checking but with uni I don't have time to
update another blog. But I can do design
and layout as I know Blogger quite well.
Mira
How does that fit in with what you would
like to do, Barbie?
like to do, Barbie?
Barbie
I will update it if people give me the
information.
information.
Mira
Okay, so we can do that through the
Paradise Artist Colony notices and Facebook.
Should we continue with Facebook then?
That's immediately updateable.
Paradise Artist Colony notices and Facebook.
Should we continue with Facebook then?
That's immediately updateable.
Barbie
I will have to learn more about Blogger.
Lu
I can help you with that :)
Barbie
Thanks :)
Mira
Well, how about I look after Facebook and
you two can do the blog?
you two can do the blog?
Lu
That's a great idea, Mira.
Barbie
I will still post our pictures there.
Mira
Yeah! It's easy to post to Facebook so anyone
can do it and then you use Facebook as a
'feeder' for the blog/website. Lu doesn't use
Facebook, Barbie, so it would be up to you
to get stuff from there for the blog.
can do it and then you use Facebook as a
'feeder' for the blog/website. Lu doesn't use
Facebook, Barbie, so it would be up to you
to get stuff from there for the blog.
Barbie
That would be no problem once I know how
Mira
Great! I love collaborating!
So, where does that leave us? Communication
seems to be under control. Now, who with?
Do we all agree that the original
Perfect Paradise Community is now pretty much
redundant?
seems to be under control. Now, who with?
Do we all agree that the original
Perfect Paradise Community is now pretty much
redundant?
Lu
Yes
Barbie
Yes
Mira
Deefer? I'm really interested in your thoughts...
Deefer
Wondering. Probably, yes, but do you have a
PP quorum to reach that? But I will say yes.
PP quorum to reach that? But I will say yes.
Mira
Well, if no one from 'the community'
comes to meetings.
comes to meetings.
**Hatred of men tangent**
Mira
Zen, we've just decided that we will pick up
the old website/blog that Darcon used to post
the Paradise Echo to, and make that our
website/blog and draw the info that people
post to Facebook for the blog.
the old website/blog that Darcon used to post
the Paradise Echo to, and make that our
website/blog and draw the info that people
post to Facebook for the blog.
Zen
Sure, ok.
Lu
I'm gonna help with the design because
I redesign my blog more than I post in it :D
I redesign my blog more than I post in it :D
Mira
But Sunshine was suggesting that we just have
one group, instead of Perfect Paradise Community,
Paradise Artist Colony, and Friends of Perfect
Paradise. What are your thoughts? And yours too,
Miriam, when you get back.
one group, instead of Perfect Paradise Community,
Paradise Artist Colony, and Friends of Perfect
Paradise. What are your thoughts? And yours too,
Miriam, when you get back.
Zen
Yeh, getting complicated.
Mira
Well, eventually, I would like to drop Perfect
Paradise Community as that is now really not
functioning as a community.
Paradise Community as that is now really not
functioning as a community.
Zen
Druth and Aph asked me what Paradise Artist
Colony was last week
Colony was last week
Mira
Well, I would have thought that was rather
self-explanatory. lol
self-explanatory. lol
Zen
But they didn't know what had changed
Mira
Well, since no one was really participating
in the Community, and I was the only one
living on the island.
in the Community, and I was the only one
living on the island.
Zen
They seemed interested in coming back
Mira
It occurred to me that we needed a change of
focus. And that since I was the only one
living here, I would make that decision myself,
lol. And it occurred to me that one of the
biggest joys here in SL, is being creative,
expressing ourselves. And that we could provide
a home here for people who wanted to be
creative in some way: painting, singing,
writing, decorating their bodies, even the
art of conversation.
focus. And that since I was the only one
living here, I would make that decision myself,
lol. And it occurred to me that one of the
biggest joys here in SL, is being creative,
expressing ourselves. And that we could provide
a home here for people who wanted to be
creative in some way: painting, singing,
writing, decorating their bodies, even the
art of conversation.
Zen
Yeh, I said something like that.
Mira
So, the island can be 'the home' for all that
to happen without people having to sing on
street corners to earn tips to pay their tier
to happen without people having to sing on
street corners to earn tips to pay their tier
Zen
I told them you are always trying to build a
community here. We agreed that you are
very resilient.
community here. We agreed that you are
very resilient.
Mira
Well, it needs people to have a community:
a common purpose. So now, instead of
'environmental sustainability' being our
focus, or 'creating community', our focus
is creativity and artistic expression. I just
hope that Druth and I don't clash again. That
was such an ordeal. I think the best thing is
that each person has a particular area of
'responsibility' that they look after to
make them feel 'empowered'.
a common purpose. So now, instead of
'environmental sustainability' being our
focus, or 'creating community', our focus
is creativity and artistic expression. I just
hope that Druth and I don't clash again. That
was such an ordeal. I think the best thing is
that each person has a particular area of
'responsibility' that they look after to
make them feel 'empowered'.
Zen
There's always someone we find hard to get
on with. Mine was Girish.
on with. Mine was Girish.
Mira
Well, that was the whole point of "trying
to create an ideal society together".
to create an ideal society together".
So, getting back to the three groups...
Miriam
Well, I agree it doesn't make much sense
to keep the Perfect Paradise Community group,
though that means all permissions need to be
transferred to the new group.
to keep the Perfect Paradise Community group,
though that means all permissions need to be
transferred to the new group.
Mira
Yeah, we will do that either by selling the
land to the new group or just changing the
name of the sim. Not sure which way to go
yet. Probably the easiest is just changing
the name of the sim. We were just about the
go through the Community's member list to
see who might come across but I definitely
think that our main focus should be Paradise
Artist Colony and keep the Friends of Perfect
Paradise separate.
land to the new group or just changing the
name of the sim. Not sure which way to go
yet. Probably the easiest is just changing
the name of the sim. We were just about the
go through the Community's member list to
see who might come across but I definitely
think that our main focus should be Paradise
Artist Colony and keep the Friends of Perfect
Paradise separate.
Miriam
Yeah
Mira
Eventually, it wouldn't bother me if that got
dropped as well. I can't recall getting any
sort of feedback at all from Friends.
dropped as well. I can't recall getting any
sort of feedback at all from Friends.
Miriam
No, I don't think so either.
Mira
If people want to just come and visit the island
occasionally, that's fine, but I really don't
see the point in putting too much energy into
'the visitors'. People will either be interested
in the colony, and come and chat to use, or just
be a 'tourist' really on the island.
occasionally, that's fine, but I really don't
see the point in putting too much energy into
'the visitors'. People will either be interested
in the colony, and come and chat to use, or just
be a 'tourist' really on the island.
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